After visiting Hakodate our next destination in Hokkaido is Lake Toya, renowned for its mesmerizing landscape and natural onsen in the surrounding area. You can read our previous Hakodate (Part 1).
Our short trip in Hokkaido means we have to skip Noboribetsu and leave it for our next Hokkaido trip. If you plan to visit Noboribetsu, do make it your first stop from Chitose while on the way to Hakodate. Noboribetsu is located between Chitose & Hakodate.
Lake Tōya is 10 kilometres in diameter volcanic caldera lake in Shikotsu-Toya National Park. An interesting fact to know Lake Toya is one of the few lakes that never ice in winter and 2nd most transparent lake in Japan.
We will be staying in Toyako Onsen 洞爺湖温泉 city which is a hot spring resort town just at the foot of Mt Usu (an active volcano). During May to October, daily fireworks light up the night.
Our hotel Daiwa Ryokan Annex is situated just in front of Lake Toya giving us a panoramic view of the Lake. Not only that the hotel itself has its own onsen which is free for hotel guests.
Daiwa Ryokan Annex is a traditional Japanese hotel where there is no bathroom inside our spacious room but a common bathing room at the onsen which is a unique experience for foreign tourist.
Onsen bathing is a traditional ritual for Japanese and they hold high respect for it and expect foreigners to follow the etiquette as well. I’ll just briefly explain how to take an Onsen Bath.
First of all, avoid going to public onsen if you have any tattoo on your body. In Japanese society, only yakuza (gangsters) have tattoos, the onsen is a common area, the last thing you want is to scare everyone off. Visitors with tattoo are normally prohibited to enter the public onsen. 2 ways to get around this, book a room with private onsen or buy a large plaster and cover up your tattoo well.
2nd, you will be provided a locker to keep your shoes & belongings. Next, get naked! Everyone must be naked. No swimming wear nor towel is allowed. If this is your first time, you might feel awkward especially among families & friends together however this is compulsory. Trust me 10 mins later, you get used to it.
Before entering the onsen, take a bath, rarely there is a stand-up shower. Instead, sit on a stool and wash & scrub your whole body. It is not uncommon for Japanese to take a long wash before entering the onsen. Make sure you are clean head to toe.
You will be provided with a small towel, it is meant to place on your head and not other place nor inside the onsen, Do not bath or wash in the onsen nor swim nor dive under water. Onsen is meant for your body, not your hair. Lastly, Please don’t fart or pee inside!
To keep it simple onsen water is like pure nutritious water for our body to absorb its mineral, so it must remain as clean as possible for everyone to benefit from it.
Upon leaving the onsen, it is not advisable to the bath so the minerals & nutrition can be absorbed into our skin. That is the essence why everyone needs to follow the etiquette so the onsen can be as clean as possible. After drying yourself wear the yukata provided, and have a short rest, a cup of drink before you are ready to leave!
Our Hotel Rate includes Genghis Khan Lam BBQ set dinner as well.
They say I look like a fat version of Kamen Rider Black
Beautiful place for photoshoot
Do you want to build a snowman? Life Goal – Build our own snowman – Checked!
As we are from a tropical country where winter is non-existent, we decided to build our own snowman since with the thick snow available & apparently we do have time to spare. It took us approx 1 hour to build & decorate our own snowman which was very fun.
Everyone was exhausted and hungry after our snowman building so we went to the nearest restaurant for lunch.
This restaurant mainly sells Hokkaido wagyu dish at a very reasonable price and they are also a distributor of Jinnai Wagyu Aka (神内和牛). Definitely, a must try when in Toyako Onsen.
Japanese Wagyu Udon, Wagyu Burger, Wagyu Sukiyaki & Wagyu Don
Melt in your mouth – Jinnai Wagyu Aka (神内和牛) 400g Steak A4 grade
And since the restaurant is also a distributor of Jinna Wagyu Aka, you can buy a frozen block and request the chef to cook the dish for extra 400 yen on top of steak price which is very reasonable. This 400g steak cost only RM320/S$110.
We chose a 400g A4 grade Jinnai Wagyu Aka (神内和牛) steak which literally melts in your mouth. Comparing Australian Wagyu, Japanese wagyu is more flavorful & condense in taste. The perfect balance of fat marbling starts to melt in your mouth. Definitely, a must try Japanese Wagyu when in Japan!
After visiting Lake Toya our next stop – Niseko! It is one of the world-famous ski destination renowned for its quality white powdery snow. Ski & snowboarding enthusiast from around the world will purposely fly in during ski season to challenge the mountain slope. Hence you can find more foreigners than Japanese in Niseko.
Niseko is just a short 1-hour drive from Toyako Onsen and we stayed in My Ecolodge, Kutchan which is 5 mins drive to the ski mountain. Do note Niseko roads have more black ice than another place, so drive super slowly during winter as cars tend to skid.
Niseko Ramen is one of the most famous ramen shop renowned for its potato foam ramen, do expect long queue and wear sufficiently during winter.
Met up with another Penang chick in Niseko, she came to snowboard for 1 week in Niseko
Niseko Ramen 982 – Creamy & Fluffy Potato Foam Ramen
Kimuchi Ramen, Habanero Ramen, Miso Butter Corn Ramen & Clear Shio Ramen
As a first-timer, we decided to ski & snowboard at Niseko Grand Hirafu which is one of the 4 resorts (Hanazono, Grand Hirafu, Niseko Village & Annupuri) of Niseko United on one mountain, Niseko Annupuri. (1,308m).
Since we are beginners without equipment, we will need to rent most of the boards & ski. If you are planning to ski for more than 1 day, it is advisable to buy your own ski suit & pants during sales in your country than renting here. There are many shops that rent ski wear & equipment in Niseko. The cost of renting ski jacket, pants & ski or snowboard is around 7,500yen per pax.
After gearing up, we headed to the beginner’s slope & bought an 8 hours ski lift pass at 5,900yen per pax. The longer duration ski lift pass, the cheaper it becomes. You can avoid buying this lift pass that brings you up to the slope by climbing up the slope yourself however it is not advisable as you might only have the energy to walk up 1 or 2 times only. The lift pass can bring you up easily and for unlimited times throughout the duration.
If this is your first time or does not know how to ski, do spend some money to learn the basic and crucially how to reduce your speed or fall down which is very important. The last thing you want is to hurt yourself or somebody else.
Skiing & Snowboarding with Mount Yotei view
Niseko Cheese Tart – Must try when in Niseko
After a fun & thrilling 8 hours of non-stop snowboarding & skiing, everyone was satisfied and we were extremely lucky as during the week weather was bad and the only sunny day was during our skiing day. Remember to buy hot chocolate & Niseko cheese tart after skiing, definitely warms you up immediately!
Part 2 of our Lake Toya & Niseko trip will end here, Part 3 Otaru & Sapporo will be the final part for our Hokkaido Trip. Do stay tuned!
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Hokkaido Blog
We have started to blog our Hokkaido Self Drive Trip, feel free to read the blog for our full travel experiences in Hokkaido.
- 11 Days 9 Nights Hokkaido Self Drive Trip – Shin Chitose & Hakodate (Part 1)
- 11 Days 9 Nights Hokkaido Self Drive Trip – Lake Toya & Niseko (Part 2)
- 11 Days 9 Nights Hokkaido Self Drive Trip – Otaru (Part 3)
- 11 Days 9 Nights Hokkaido Self Drive Trip – Sapporo (Part 4)
- Travel Guide: 15 Must-Visit Attractions & Food in Hakodate, Hokkaido
- Noboribetsu & Shiraoi
- Asahikawa
- Biei
- Furano
- Kushiro, Lake Akan & Lake Mashu
- Otaru
- Sapporo
Hokkaido Car Rental
We did a self-drive trip in Hokkaido which we were glad we did especially during winter and visiting small cities. Driving made our trip much more comfortable and convenient. We rented our Car Rental online from ToCoo!
If you are planning to drive a few days, rent from companies that offer Hokkaido Highway Pass which allows unlimited expressway with fix fare on certain highways. Do note not all car rental companies offer this.
Note: An International driving license is needed to rent a car in Japan.
Hi Tommy,
How long it took you to get used to snowboarding? Was there a beginner ski class? Thanks
Hi CKK, we were fortunate our friend knew how to snowboard hence she taught us. Yeah there are beginner ski class to participate. To be honest 1 day isnt enough for me to master it, I merely know how to maneuver around and still falling down ^^
Hi Tommy,
I’m very impressed with your blog.
Thanks for the great recommendation.
Will be traveling to Hokkaido in end May.
Targeting to visit Hakodate, Lake Toya, Sapporo, Otaru and Furano.
When will your Part 3 (Otaru & Sapporo) be published?
Hope to get some info before my trip.
Thanks.
SS
Hi Ng, will be published end may or early june. Feel free to message us on fb for more info
Hi Tommy,
Our family are planning to visit Hokkaido this coming December. Would like to seek your advice about driving in Hokkaido as we really have no experience driving under snowing condition.
And it’s so difficult to travel around with my kids & senior citizen from New Chitose to Noboribetsu and thereafter to Niseko on 3rd day before heading to Otaru & Sapporo subsequently.
Thanks
Hi, is not hard just drive slowly and make sure snow tyre & tyre metal is used
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for your advice. So the car rental company that you recommended shall provide the snow tyre & tyre metal as well??
And do I need international driving licence to drive in Tokyo?
Hi Jenny, u have to make sure you rent your car comes with it. Snow tyre normally auto included but tyre metal might need add on. You will need international license to drive in Japan
Hi Tommy,
Unfortunately there’s no more car available in Dec. Do you have other car rental company to recommend?
Hi Jenny, which date?
Hi Tommy, I would like to pick up at New Chitose Airport on 4th Dec and return on 9th Dec at New Chitose Airport too. There are six passengers all together.
Hi Jenny, will check with TooCoo and get back to you when they reply. Thanks
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for your great help in checking out.
Is it true that in general, the early to mid-Dec period is the most critical for driving, as the weather may warm up and cool down which leads to the infamous black-ice?
Hi Jenny, Dec availability is not out yet I was told, mostly they start inserting it in Aug, so you can search by then ^^ I think any winter period is the same as heat is produced by cars as well.. So drive much slower.. Sometimes we drove 30kph in small towns & at night
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for sharing your personal experience driving under the snowy conditions and also extended a great help in checking out with TooCoo directly on the car rental availability. I shall wait till Aug to check it again.
I feel more assured and convinced to do my self drive.
Meanwhile, looking forward for your Part 3 travel experience in Sapporo.
Hi Jenny, you are most welcome. The convenience & comfort overwhelmed the danger part for us as long as we drive slowly and be extra careful. Have fun
Hi Tommy, We plan to book Daiwa Ryokan Annex for our stay at Lake Toya and I am just wondering whether the hotel only have onsen and there is no shared bathroom or shower room in the hotel? I guessed there is no toilet and bathroom inside the hotel room. Thank you.
Hi Kelvin every floor there is share toilet, bathroom is share beside onsen
Thanks for the very informative guide. When is Part 3 out?
Hi Ling, Hopefully within 2 weeks
Hi Tommy
We will be in Hokkaido 17 to 23 December 2016.
We have 6 nights accommodation in Niseko where we will be skiing after which we have 5 days free for travelling around Hokkaido before heading home. Could you please advise if
(a) the itinerary below works (b) best mode of transport for each leg we wont be driving) and
(c) recommended accommodation
Thanks!
17 Dec Arrive Sapporo Chitose 830am – 10.30am coach to Niseko
23 Dec Niseko to Hakodate (check in one night) (depart Niseko at 10am)
24 Dec Hakodate to Lake Toya (one/two nights)
25 Dec Lake Toya to Noboribetsu (one night if not staying at lake toya for second night)
26 Dec Noboribetsu to Sapporo (check in 2 nights)
27 Dec Sapporo to Otaru and back to Sapporo
28 Dec Depart Sapporo Chitose 10am flight
Hi Selene, maybe u can visit Noboribetsu first since it is very nearby Chitose. Hakodate min 2 nights would be better
Hi when will you post your part 3 for Sapporo & Otaru. Hope to hear from you soon as I’m also planning my trip for December.
Hi Cheong, will try to complete asap. Thanks
Hi Tommy. I must compliment you on your blog for your trip as it is very comprehensive and informative. We have planned a trip there in December but are challenged with our car choices due to the size of the luggage we will use as we need to carry winter wear and so will use our larger suitcases. Most of the cars state that they can carry five passengers but only has space for three bags.
We have tentatively booked a station wagon Toyota Corollafielder 1500 for the four of us and our four pieces of 29″ suitcases (Dimensions in inches are = 29 H x 18 W x 12 D (expands to 14 in depth) and are now unsure if the luggage will fit. Will you be able to kindly advise us whether to go for a bigger car as the prices for the next level taking 6 to 8 persons is almost double.
Thanks for your help.
Hi Charles,
For us the double amount price is not feasible, 4 of us we rent Nissan Note. What we did was 2 person share a 28″luggage. So I would suggest to trim down luggage instead
Hi may i know which school u signed up for the ski lesson? and did you purchase the lift ticket on the spot or from the official website?
Hi Ellyn, we learnt ski before so we have little basic of it, but if you have zero experience, please do learn first as it can be fatal. Purchase on the spot
I enjoyed reading about your trip. Did you rent snow tyres or chains during the trip. Were any roads impassable ?
Hi Kay our car include snow tyre but not chain. With chain it is safer. 99% of road are ok, 1% small alley that has black ice and slope, snow trye couldnt drive up so we need to drive larger road
Hi Tommy!
Very informative posts on Hokkaido. I’ll be visiting Hokkaido for the first time next year at the exact same period with your travel dates. Hence it’s really useful for me as I will be experiencing the almost same weather.
For first timers do you think 4D3N in Niseko is too long? Our main purpose is to ski only in Niseko. Ski equipment rental are calculated by days correct? ‘cos we are trying to save all the possible cost and make it a budget visit.
Hi KC, to be honest 4D3N is not enough for skiiers but too much for non lover. So which side are you? You can use 1 day to learn 2 days to enjoy different slopes. Should be enjoyable if you love ski
Hi Tommy – great blog you maintain here – thanks you for all the sharing!
I am taking my family for a Hokkaido trip over the xmas and new year period this year so I have a few questions:
1) you mentioned Niseko has more black ice than other spots – where specifically? we’re driving from Hakodate to Niseko, and Niseko to Otaru (probably around noon) and we’re driving from Otaru to Asahikawa (leaving early in the morning)
2) we’re booking via Tocoo for a 4WD Subaru and was told the ETC will be delivered to our hotel in Hakodate and we pick it up when reach hotel, then we had to mail it back to them via the provided envelope – is that what you guys experienced too?
Thanks for helping!
Cheers
Casey
Hi Tommy, such a great guide to Hokkaido!
I’m planning to go to Hokkaido around early of February 2017.
Is it possible to get around without using car?
How’s the weather in February, is it bearable to walk around if I don’t rent a car?
Thank you and looking forward to your reply.
Cheers!
Hi, is better with car as making the trip more comfortable unless u only visiting Sapporo & Otaru only
Hi tommy, for winter driving in hokkaido, do you think renting a 4WD is necessary? I went through toocoo website and tried to find a package to depart from Chitose and end in sapporo. but couldn’t get any package that include both HEP and ETC. I heard sapporo parking rate is expensive and therefore I plan to take train during the last 2.5 days of my trip in sapporo. Do you think it’s a wise choice? thanks
Hi Ellyn, not neccessary 4WD is needed cos we rented a compact car as well. Make sure it is snow tyre and to be safer metal chain. Sapporo parking at both our hotel is 2000 yen per day for unlimited entry. So u can drive to far places with car and use public transport in city center
Hi Tommy, fortunate to chance upon your blog! V informative 🙂 thanks so much!
May i check with you where are we able to get HEP from? We have booked a car with ToCoo! and as we will be travelling quite a bit (chitose airport > Niseko > Hakodate > Noboribetsu > Sapporo > Otaru > Furano > Sapporo), thought having a HEP is more cost effective?
Hi Tommy, can I check if we rent the car through ToCoo! Do they have Hokkaido highway pass? Also I saw their winter car rental package was snow tyre fully equipped, is this meant that the metal chain included? Thanks Tommy
Hi Ng, Snow tyre doesnt mean include metal chain, is just tyre meant for snow. Look into the list of operator that offers Hokkaido Highway pass
Hi. How many days u stay in niseko?
Hi Lok, we stayed 2 days 1 night in Niseko, depends how much ski you want
Ok thanks. Btw for the niseko ski resort. The ski equipment n booking for ski. Do you book through online or upon arrival. If online do you have the link for booking?
Hi Lok, there are many shops outside ski resort that rents ski equipment, just drop in the shop to choose your gears
Hi Tommy, may I know you travel to Hokkaido was during which month? I am planning to travel on Feb 2017 I am in dilemma whether it’s dangerous to self drive. Could you share more about your experience self drive during your trip?
Hi we went in early March, definitely recommended but do bear in mind to drive extra slowly 50% slower than usual. With car it is much more convenient
Hi Annysia, we just returned from Hokkaido on Saturday, 10 dec before it got snowed in and we did six days of driving on our arrival that took us to Lake Toya, Hakodate and Niseko before returning the car in Susukino City in Sapporo. Tommy’s recommendations are tops and we enjoyed many of the sights and the delicious food options he suggested and I especially like the ramen in Niseko. It is safe to drive if you have experienced drivers who are careful and alert. Speed limits are 40 km per hour on the rural roads and 60 to 80 km per hour on the highways but during poor visibility and snow you could be driving at speeds of 25 to 30 km and so you must have patient and alert drivers. You need a car with 4 wheel drive for better traction and in February 2017 it could get colder (or hotter) as we had temperatures of between 2 to 4 degrees most of the days. The Times Car Rental company is very good and the GPS is awesome as it gets you to all your locations without fuss. Driving gives you far more flexibility and you can explore more and so we have no regrets driving. You do need an international driving permit if you plan to drive there. Go for it, it is a worthwhile adventure if you are a competent driver.
Hi Charles, welcome back & glad you enjoyed it! Also thanks for your follow up pointers
Hi Charles and Tommy, thank you so much for your valuable comments. much appreciated.
Glad you had an amazing trip and after reading your comments I have better insights on how to plan for my trip and I’m so looking forward for my Hokkaido trip 🙂
Hi Tommy, may i know what is the restaurant name for wagyu beef? Is it nearby lake toya?
Hi Mag, yes it is very nearby lake toya, i think you will need to use my photo and try find it..
Dear Mag,
We stayed at this ryokan that Tommy recommended and the lamb barbeque dinner and japanese breakfast was included in the room rate. The dinner was scrumptious and really filling and the breakfast was also very good. The onsen is very convenient to access from the room and so you will feel very comfortable here.
Dear Charles,
Yes, after read through Tommy’s blog, I have decided to stay at the Ryokan that he recommend! 🙂
Thanks Tommy. Will look around for the restaurant!
Hi Mag, have fun!
Hi Tommy,
Have tried to book rooms in sapporo, niseko or even tomamu for mid to xmassy dec 2017 but seem like they are all not available!?! Does room in hokkaido sell out that fast or they are not open for booking yet? Would you recommend self drive during Dec for a family of 5 with 2 luggages? Many thanks in advance.
Hi. We were in Sapporo / Niseko / Hokkaido from 1 – 10 December 2016 and we had a wonderful time using information from Tommy’s Blog. We only booked our accommodation around July or August and so I think that you are too early for your hotel booking.
Unless you have very experienced drivers who can drive in winter, we would hesitate to recommend a self drive as it gets very tricky. My brother in law and I have more than 30 years of driving experience each and for both of us it was the first time we drove in winter and even then it was a challenge especially when it snowed heavily. You also need to apply for an international driving license as the Singapore Driving License is not recognised for driving there.
With a family of five you will need an MPV and do not forget that it is winter and so two luggages will not be enough for a family of five unless they are young children. We were two couples and we had four large luggages and two smaller bags for snacks and food and still needed an MPV. We hired an 8 seater Mazda Premacy from Times Car Rentals and it was equipped with snow tyres. A very good and safe car as it is a 4 wheel drive. Better to have a 4 wheel drive for winter as it gives you better road holding on ice and snow.
Hope this helps.
Can malaysian driving license being used inJapan?
Hi Evie, you will need international driving license
Thanks Tommy…
Hi Tommy, do you mind to share your itinerary in Sapporo?
Hi Tommy, I am looking at the having some basic skiing lessons for my wife, my son and I. The price for a family comes up to be about ¥ 35,000 for 3 hours. Is this normal? Are there any cheaper alternatives for family ski classes? The other way seems to be to split us up and join various group classes.
Please advise. Thanks.
Hi Choong, I would definitely recommend to take the ski class and learn as much as possible before you will able to enjoy it as it can be dangerous
Hi Tommy, what is the average car park rate in Hokkaido? or do you have the list of them?
I heard Sapporo car park rate is count by hours, then the other cities and tourist spot are count by per entry.
Is Tyre chain allowed to use in city? I aware it will damage the surface of the road.
Hi VC, most hotels count by per day while normal car parks count by per hour
Hi Tommy, read ur interesting block on Hokkaido. Me n my girlfriend will be visiting hokkaido on oct 19, 2017 till Oct 30. Arriving Chitose Airport @ 8.10am. We depart from Chitose Airport @ 9.30am. Since we are 1st timers, would greatly appreciate ur great advice in moving around, where 2 start, reasonably-priced accommodation, mode of transportation,food, etc. Since it’s just 2 of us ladies, pls advice best mode of transportation.
Any further advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.
Brgds,
Margaret
Hi Margaret, enjoy your trip by touring CHitose airport, eat your breakfast and visit Doraemon center there. We self drive to Hakodate, Lake toya, Niseko, Otaru and Sapporo
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for posting up these informative infomations. I would like to seek your advise on below items:
1) Car rental – Over luggage
I will be travelling with family of 8 adult. Planning to get an MPV with 8 seater. But the issue we have is the luggage space. Is the car rental will reject your booking on the spot if we have luggage more than what stated in their website?
2) Car rental- pickup and return
Can I know if you pick up and return your car at CTS airport? My return flight is early in the morning and i survey on car rental website, their office is only open at 10am
3) Sapporo City
I will plan Sapporo city as my last place to visit in my itinerary. I heard that moving around in Sapporo is easy and convenience. Do you think that with 8 adults, it will be cost efficient for us to use public transport or continue renting the car? Also is it convenience to get to the airport by public transport?
Thanks
Hi Tammy,
There is no point trying to squeeze more luggage than allowed as any damage to the car will be borne by you and it will make trip uncomfortable since there is no place to sit and for luggage.
Our car rental office opens from 7am so we have no prob. Do recheck the time open. Yes city center sapporo is more convenient with public transport however if going surrounding like Asahi factory, Shiroi Koibito Park then car is easier
Hi Tommy.
Hope you are well. I would be going going to Hokkaido from 14 December to 28 December 2018 – 2 people. I would be staying at Niseko from 14 – 19 December. Would you recommend 1 night / 2 nights at Toya and Hakodate after? What other places would you recommend after and which car company? Many thanks!
I only plan to rent the car from 19 December 2018 onwards. Many thanks!
Hi Tommy,
After going through ur blog ,feel that some places are really interesting to visits and not in my itinerary . Could you pls give me some advise how to plan for my self drive itinerary . Reach Sapporo and will be staying in the centre for 5 days and otaru , asahikawa and noboribetsu was the places i’d planned . But after go through your blog would like to insert Niseko or lake toya. Do you think can fit it in my itinerary. How do you recommend the 1st place we should visit .And i’d booked car rental and really appreciated that u had recommended Tocoo! to shorten my check list .
Many thanks !
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for your sharing on the Hokkaido trip. Planning to go Hokkaido on 23 Dec 2019 till 2 Jan 2020. The places that we plan to visit will be Hakodate, Niseko, Lake Toya, Noboribetsu, Otaru and Sapporo. If we are not planning to self drive around, will the public transport convenience at Hokkaido? Referring to your blog, you did mention will be the best o travel to Noboribetsu on the first day of arrive at New Chitose Airport then only heading to Hakadate.
Looking forward for your adv soon.
Thanks,
Belyn
Hi Belyn, I think it is more inconvenient to take public transport especially during winter time as u are hopping to several cities
Hi Tommy, I plan to Hokkaido in early December this year and I decide try the self driving during winter, my plan is Niseko,Late Toya and Hakodate from Chitose airport, which one I need go first? Hakodate how many day enough? Chitose-Niseko-Late Toya-Hakkodate-Sapporo/Chitose, Thanks.
Hi if you can spare 1 day extra you should go Noboribetsu.. Chitose- Noboribetsu-Lake Toya-Hakodate-Niseko-Otaru-Sapporo. Hakodate 2 or 3 nights
Thanks for reply, but U just have 6 days in hokkaido, Otaru been already, so without self driving still can go by train? because in winter worry dangerous for self driving and first time wanna decide self driving. Because I thinking stay at Niseko 2 nights and Hakodate 2 nights and sapporo 1 night.
Hi, it is more convenient to drive around. Public transport is available as well. Niseko are you skiing?
Hi, yes,we skiing there….but winter is dangerous for driving to ski place? so if go to Niseko,will go to Late Toya or noboribetsu for day trip, can I go to Niseko first then go to Hakodate or Hakodate first? Thanks
Hi to us is ok just need to drive very slow. Reason being Niseko accommodation should be higher price. You can go Noboribetsu or Niseko first